The calendar shown above is an example of how the cycle stimulation may evolve. Has anyone done this Lupron STOP protocol? Thoughts on different protocols? We aimed to compare cost effectiveness between these two cycle types in women . My second we moved from an antagonist to a Lupron stop protocol with PICSI and wound up with 8 embryos, 3 of which were PGS normal. This treatment protocol is known as a "microdose flare." The initial injections of Lupron stimulate the pituitary gland to secrete its own natural FSH and LH (aka a flare), in addition to the FSH and LH you get from the other two injectable fertility medications. 3 were mature, and only one fertilized. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to . Hi has anyone done a MENOPUR only cycle? Lap 2/15. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. I wont be using birth control, just starting lupron a week after ovulation. Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. I'm wondering if any Im struggling with responding to meds over 40. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. I performed poorly with estrogen priming, so we are taking it out now.hsve you started stim? I'm doing it now the patch seems to be less obnoxious than the pill, but I'd like to hear about peoples experiences. Our most common protocol utilizes Lupron as a trigger instead of hCG to mature follicles prior to egg collection. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. Earnest Letter. Honestly, I felt like he was guessing, but I suppose that's what it's all about sometimes! Your stories have all made me feel better. So if u want to give it one more try isay go for it. Total noob question about protocols - don't be offended. Would estrogen priming be safe for a baby if I do happen to be pregnant? Maybe he will change with time but for.now, we are pursuing myeggs actively. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. 1. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. Finally some (tough) answers. Then di, I had a regular IVF cycle 1 month ago. I tried IVF in may since my follicle count was low I cancelled it. 16dp5dt. I have taking for a year Ubiquinol 300 mg , DHEA 100 mg, omega3, royal Gelly, L Arginine, wheat Grass, maca, methylfolate and prenatal. Beta 1/22: 14 Beta 1/24: 24 Beta 1/26: 28 Got 9 eggs, 4 were mature, 3 fertilized, 2 didn't make it and the 1 that made it to blast tested abnormal. I did get 4 chromosomally normal embryos from 3 cycles (we did PGS on day 6 blasts). Estrogen priming and the agonist-antagonist conversion protocol is at least as successful as the microdose flare protocol based on medical data. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Create an account or log in to participate. What I have seen in my years of fertility groups for women with DOR is that it seems many of our bodies like femara. 11F. Hello All, think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. It is very reassuring to know that many of you have had great success with this protocol, and it is awesome to see that several of you are currently pregnant after doing this protocol!! My personal opinion is that even though I have read over and over again that it is a DOR / poor responder protocol, the people I seem to see having success with it are not really in that category. FET. Def try the microdose lupron flare and let us know how it turns out!!!! What felt "cookie cutter" was that despite my great day 3 tests, RE put me on microdose Lupron flare protocol with 300 units of Follistim (150 twice a day). It seems to be less common, since most clinics batch cycle, and this one is based off your individual cycle. I have no input on EPP but I am so excited you're starting up!!! undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. That said he did the exact same thing back to back and only got 4 and 1 abnormal blast. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. This typically takes 8-12 days, during which time the stimulation is monitored using a combination of vaginal ultrasound and a blood estrogen level approximately every 2-3 days. Beta1 9/10: 152.7! I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. Create an account or log in to participate. High FSH. Five days before her last BCP, she will start Lupron. San Antonio, TX 78258, 7629 S Staples Ste 106A One ended up with one pgs normal (but my numbers were cut down by needing to pgd as well so we had to discard at least one euploid in this cycle) Next try I got 13 eggs, I think 8 fertilized, we sent 5 good/excellent blasts off and got 2 more pgs/pgd normals. I did microdose Lupron flare protocol for my first cycle back in August. In patients with low egg reserve, this combination may exert . Short Lupron (Microdose or Flare) Protocol for IVF. 0000001040 00000 n Is this normal??? My little one is a success story from MDL! 14 and 13. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. Start by selecting which of these best describes you! Austin, TX 78749, 705 Generations Dr, Suite 102 Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 IVF2 (ICSI/AH/ACU): Microdose Lupron Flare The number of daily injections are fewer (4 to 5 days) of antagonists versus 3-4 weeks of agonists) and the length of time to stimulate the follicles to maturity is one or two days shorter, so you may need less total gonadotropins. MENTS In 2019 I miscarried & has a D&C because my doctors, nurses & even friends who had the same situation said to get the D&C. They did ICSE and both, I was reading another post about the cost of meds. My doctor refunded some costs and wants me to try again. Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. With IVF#2, we did MDL. I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. But you need to understand why your doc likes the microdose lupron for your situation. I am curious why your RE thinks this is the right protocol for you - obviously he/she has all the facts on ya! More about us: I had elevated anticardiolipins. Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? Thin Lining - stim protocol - suggestions? Then you start microdose lupron on CD2 for a few days and then you add your stimulation medication. Thanks! The major difference is that, by cutting the dose of Lupron down to one sixth of the routine dose, and by giving it twice daily, the Lupron actually turns the pituitary gland on rather than off, producing major release of FSH. Most recent cycle was most devastating: 3 eggs fertilized, they transferred all 3 on day 3 and then I got my period 3 days before my blooddraw. Setting: Anatolia Women and IVF Center. Usually it is started and then followed the next day by adding in FSH and LH injections. But after the estrogen my 3 follilces seemed to be more closely matched in size. some people think that a bcp suppresses some women too much and so a epp is used instead. me 33/DH 36ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~11 IUIs = 1 m/c (7w4d)IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFNSurprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160Stick Frogger Stick! Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. I do have mild DOR and respond poorly to stims. 3F. I was diagnosed with high FSH (16). You Will Mother. Hi ladies just looking for any inspiring stories! Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. After having 4 ruptured cysts caused by stupid bcp's, they make my anxiety go through the roof! I had blocked tubes and everything else with me and DH was normal. I hope this helps,I conceived my son naturally on 50 mg clomid at 39. Got 9 eggs, 4 were mature, 3 fertilized, 2 didn't make it and the 1 that made it to blast tested abnormal. Fraternal girls born Dec 2010 2011 Dec-Natural BFP M/C at 8.5 wks 2012 Dec-Natural BFP . 8Cell 1Grade 2Embies. I wanted to know for those who have PCOS (i have mild PCOS) which IVF protocol yielded a BFP for you ? The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. I'm gearing up for my 4th IVF cycle next month. Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. 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Any help would be greatly appreciated looking for hope this time around.. Hi everyone, does anyone have any thoughts on which protocol is better for older women and which protocol is best for retrieving good quality, chromosomally normal eggs? Just curious-What was your medicine protocol. Please share your stories..how long did you stim for? Kate's IF Blog. I know everyone's situation is completely different, and we all respond differently to the meds, but I just thought I would ask. They are concerned about egg quality. Anyone want to join in a roll-call for late/Sept, early Oct IVFers? :), I'm confused by all the information out there for women over 40. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. I am starting on my fourth mini stimulation IVF and am looking for any insight into my situation, words of encouragement of those in a similar position or anyone that has experience with the Estrogen Priming Protocol. I did 9 IVF attempts in 2 years - high stim, low stim, mid-stim, estrogen-priming. I just had my first cycle cancelled last week due to no response and I h, A lot of women on the board have asked me what I have done between IVF#2 and IVF#3 in order to get such a drastic improvement in results (number of eggs, fertilization, and I even have frozen embryos this time - crazy). Like usually day 17 or something. So, we concluded that the microdose flare-up protocol may have a better outcome in poor-responder patients. Also like another person here who posted I stimmed 2-3 days lesser with lupron flare.. sometimes a bcp is used for this same purpose. I took BCP for 3 weeks. i will try to check back.. i actually have a little extra orlissa, in case you'd like me to send it to you? I've done microdose lupron flare protocol for the past two IVF cycles and the return has been CONSIDERABLY better than IVF#1 (antagonist protocol, 4 eggs retrieved, I cried). Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). Good luck! DH 38- Low EverythingMe 33- AMH .9Married 11 years 2002-current IUIs, meds, natural = All BFNAug. END MENTS In 2020, I had 3 IVF cycles all of which were cancelled. Any input / thoughts are greatly appreciated! Microdose lupron/micro flare lupron vs agonist-antagonist ivf protocol. He takes my input and works with me. With IVF#2, I got 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature. Transfered a blast and early blast and froze one. Thanks for the support. I did microflare lupron after being diagnosed with elevated FSH. It is used for patients who are "low responders." Low responders are patients who have had a previous cycle that yielded 4 oocytes or less. I am excited to read all the success stories. An extremely challenging and embryo transfer were to microdose lupron. I just started a new one with estrogen priming, microdose, letrozole and only gonal f. No menopur. I am 42 and after 1 failed IUI and 1 failed IVF, I am now starting my second round IVF with the lupron flare and ICSI. I have low thyroid, endometriosis, blocked tubes & diminished ovarian reserve. But other doctors have mentioned that it is great for women with DOR. I have had 3 Doctors want to use Lupron in some form. I have only ever done 150 and 225 and responded very well. Called GnRH antagonists, these medications work differently than the GnRH agonists like Lupron. '13 - We will try again with EPP. This will be our 2nd IVF. First time posting here. How are you feeling? November IVF Protocol - DOR / LOW AMH / +40. Round Three Result 6/25: BFN Beta 2 = 4822 7wk u/s= 2 heartbeats! Femara-Antagonist Protocol. Besides, I hear regular lupron sucks so I'm grateful I didn't have to do that part. We learned, after mont, Hello 1st ultrasound 10/1: TWO beautiful heartbeats! 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